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 Post subject: Bet & Win Noob Questions
PostPosted: Tue 3. Feb 2009, 17:22 

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Thanks for all of the help so far with GetDKP and GetDKPFu. Now I'm ready to move on to Bet & Win. :mrgreen:

I have gone through the threads and found some general questions, e.g.:

ijhammo wrote:
HI there

can you explain what the bet and win tab is and how it is used?

I cant find anything in the readme file about it

Thanks


And also some detailed ones that match my situation:

Morgaine wrote:
Is there a manual or written instruction anywhere that explains how u use the Bet and Win-functionality in GetDKP? How do I start an auction? Our guild already use the system that is covered by rule number 2 (fixed price/highest DKP wins).


Noakim wrote:
A how is bidding started if I use rule2, where the player with the most dkp wins the item?
We are using fixed price for items and the player who wins is the one who has the most DKP.


That is pretty much my guild's situation. Items have a fixed price, and almost all of the time the bidding player with the most DKP gets the item (we have a "Loot Council" rule under which we sometimes overrule DKP, almost always to equip a Main Tank).

Unfortunately, neither of the above questions were answered, at least not in the threads. Luckily for me, there were some very educational posts, in this more recent thread,by Hiloba and Sylna.

I'm a guild officer and have an "Assist" in raids. I'm also the keeper of DKP -- I run CTRT, record the DKP, post the raid strings to our web site, order the beer, etc. While posting DKP costs to CTRT's raid string, I also enter "DKP-" commands to keep my local copy of the DKP updated.

The one loot-related role that I don't have is Master Looter. I'm not interested either, because as you can see my UI is already quite busy when we are looting a boss.

I haven't tried Bet and Win yet but would like to. Right now people who want an item whisper the Master Looter and he tells the rest of the officers in officer chat who has bid, we reply in officer chat who has the most DKP, then the officers decide who wins the item -- all manual.

I think the configuration of Bet and Win that would work in my guild's situation is Rule 4 as shown in the attached screenshot. The default fixed price for an item is 10 DKP, and I changed the need word to "bid."

So that leads to my noob questions:
  1. Can I start a Bet and Win auction as Raid Assist without being the Master Looter?
  2. Once my ability to control Bet and Win is established, I'm assuming that I will see the list of items on a dead boss in the Bet and Window, correct?
  3. If that's correct, than I select a particular item in the Bet and Win window and start the countdown, correct?
  4. And, given the way that I have configured B&W, players interested in a particular item will whisper "bid" to me, correct?
  5. When the countdown expires I will automatically report in officer chat (that's the chat channel I selected in configuration) who has bid and their DKP, correct?
  6. Finally, the Master Looter will award the item to the winner as usual using WoW's standard Master Looter functionality, correct?

Sorry for the long essay, but I am very paranoid about screwing up DKP or loot. GetDKP is an awesome tool, but as Spiderman says "With great power comes great responsibility." :D

Seid


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 Post subject: Re: Bet & Win Noob Questions
PostPosted: Wed 4. Feb 2009, 10:22 
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seidinove wrote:
So that leads to my noob questions:
  1. Can I start a Bet and Win auction as Raid Assist without being the Master Looter?
  2. Once my ability to control Bet and Win is established, I'm assuming that I will see the list of items on a dead boss in the Bet and Window, correct?
  3. If that's correct, than I select a particular item in the Bet and Win window and start the countdown, correct?
  4. And, given the way that I have configured B&W, players interested in a particular item will whisper "bid" to me, correct?
  5. When the countdown expires I will automatically report in officer chat (that's the chat channel I selected in configuration) who has bid and their DKP, correct?
  6. Finally, the Master Looter will award the item to the winner as usual using WoW's standard Master Looter functionality, correct?

Sorry for the long essay, but I am very paranoid about screwing up DKP or loot. GetDKP is an awesome tool, but as Spiderman says "With great power comes great responsibility." :D

Seid


  1. Jub, this should work, too. Haven't tried but... should... ^^
  2. B&W window sometimes wont come up automatically. nononononononono, not everytime just for the first time. i, for excample, had this issue that with "B&W ON/OFF" unmarked (should be off, no?) B&W came up and marked it behaved like disabled. so you should try this out first before you claim to have a new system and epic fail w/o having tested. B&W opens when you loot your emblem/look into boss automatically or by useing errr "/GDB" (i guess, long time no use cuz im currently not the one responsible for this things). but i don't know how to insert items when you use "/GDB" so i f.e. lootet again if i accidently closed it or whatever.
  3. items will be displayed in B&W-window on the right side from top to bottom. just click on it and a raidwarning will show up with sth like "item blablabla you got <amount> of time to bet"
  4. bid or greed followed by their bet ,) so: "bid <amount>" or "greed <amount>". but you will have to change output channel into raid, because i am not sure if the raidwarning with "auction startet blabla" shows up or not with having sth. else but raid there.
  5. you automatically report countdown of your bet. like "10 seconds remaining". winner will be reportet by clicking on her/him (B&W window sorts them automatically). (thats why you should set raid channel as output)
  6. correct

if i got your dkp system right... B&W is not really what you need... cuz anyways there's always sb who has to MANUALLY look over bets and decide who will be awarded... maybe you can do this PRE-bet... meaning "oh this is tank item (t7 head for example) cuz your tank doesn't have this already" or "oh this is dmg cloth!"

hope i could help =)


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 Post subject: Re: Bet & Win Noob Questions
PostPosted: Wed 4. Feb 2009, 13:07 
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To see the list of items on the right side of B&W the masterlooter has to have GetDKP installed and properly configured. The list of Items will be broadcastet to all the GetDKP-Users in the raid and their B&W will popup when the masterlooter opens the loot. Who starts the auction doesn't matter. You don't need to be masterlooter to start auctions. But noone will get the itemlist if masterlooter has no GetDKP.



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 Post subject: Re: Bet & Win Noob Questions
PostPosted: Wed 4. Feb 2009, 15:26 

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That's very helpful, thanks to both of you!

Seid


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